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« on: June 16, 2008, 07:44:54 PM »

A new HALO novel is coming Fall, 2008!

Here it is!
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 08:38:22 PM »

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reveals the location of the Spartan Gray Team

FINALLY. 

Good eye, John!  I look forward to buying this.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 08:52:38 PM »

Hmm, well at least it's not Joe Staten. I can't wait to see how this one turns out.
If you guys don't mind I'll wait for you to buy it and let me know how it is before I buy it. Contact Harvest left me cold, and I'm unfamiliar with this writer.
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2008, 09:17:11 PM »

Now for my dumb question: Which one is gray team again?
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 10:21:11 PM »

gray team are the last remaining spartans II's outside the ring world, they weren't present at the fall of reach because they were too far to be recalled back to reach and they were kicking ass
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 04:00:27 AM »

... I do enjoy when lurkers come out of there hole to answer questions : )
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 08:41:55 AM »

I always say everytime that a new Halo novel comes out that I'm going to read it, but I never do.  Kinda seems lame to say I'm a Halo fan without reading the books though.  So as I've said before, I think I'm going to read the other novels and then read this one when I get to it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2008, 09:17:31 AM »

Be sure to read all the ones by Eric Nylund:
First Strike
Fall of Reach
Ghosts of Onyx

The other two (am I missing any?), The Flood, and Contact Harvest IMO can be skipped over. Both have their good points (you learn a buttload about the Covenant in Contact Harvest), but aren't nearly as good as the ones Nylund wrote.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 09:20:35 AM »

Contact: Harvest was terrible, but The Flood gets a bad rap unfairly; for heaven's sake the man had to write a book following a pre-determined plot-line.  Everyone else got to (mostly) invent their own material.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2008, 10:00:24 AM »

And DaKiller, make sure you read them in order:

The Fall of Reach
The Flood (if you want to, but it was actually very good except for the parts that you already played in the first game  Cheesy )
First Strike

Ghosts of Onyx
Contact Harvest


Hey everyone! HALO Uprising #3 is due out this week! Yeah!
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2008, 01:46:24 PM »

I would also like to point out that if you do read Contact Harvest, try to pretend that it wasn't written by the guy who wrote the storylines for the Halo games.
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2008, 04:07:23 PM »

I would also like to point out that if you do read Contact Harvest, try to pretend that it wasn't written by the guy who wrote the storylines for the Halo games.
Tehehehe. Teh suckage.
Hey everyone! HALO Uprising #3 is due out this week! Yeah!
You're kidding me, right? Seriously they are now just releasing the third of the four comic books that explained what happened between Halo 2 and Halo 3? What the heck!?

Hmm, well at least it's not Joe Staten. I can't wait to see how this one turns out.
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

And agreeing with Totemo (again), I'm very skeptical about this author. Why not let Nylund do it the way it is supposed to be (as of now anyway).
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2008, 05:48:40 PM »

I would also like to point out that if you do read Contact Harvest, try to pretend that it wasn't written by the guy who wrote the storylines for the Halo games.

What is it with Staten anyway? You'd think being one of the founding members, and the guy that writes the dang screenplays for the games (which I thought were pretty decent throughout), he'd be a good novelist. I'll admit, I'm nowhere near finished with the book. In fact, it's been about 4 months since I've resumed. I just found it so hard to pick up his flow. He's overly descriptive...to the third power. It felt more like a lecture than a story. I quickly disliked his style. But there were times, very few times that the story rawked. Still, I find it hard to pick up that book again which is a real shame; I don't want to miss out on what this story has to tell.
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2008, 12:13:42 PM »

I burned through all of the Halo books in about 3 days. Each one took about 3 days, that is.
You know, Staten might be like me insofar as usually if I have to pull something out of my ass like an essay or some other paper, its usually pretty good, but if I have time to do it properly and try to improve upon it, it just gets messy and much worse than it was. Or, conversely, if I'm working on an idea for years, and have time to improve upon it to the point where it is really good, that works as well. Halo 1 was re-created from scratch after years of toying around with it in 5 months. So he either had to pull a new storyline out of his ass or he'd been developing it for 3 years. In Halo 2 he wasn't quite as rushed, so he probably wrote up a great storyline like Halo 1, and then decided he wanted to throw in stuff about the covenant and make it all convoluted.
Halo 3, IMO was a disaster of a storyline. I mean just awful in terms of the "epic" feeling the game utterly failed at. The pacing of the story was abominable, and the plot arcs in the game kept jerking the player in a  new direction at exactly the WRONG moment. They listened to the fans complaining that Halo 2 wasn't all about Master Chief, except Joe forgot that he had introduced new characters in Halo 2 that had plotlines of their own that tied in with the main story in a big way. I mean, how DID Amanda Keyes and Sgt. Johnson and the Arbiter get back to earth? Last we saw of them they're on Delta Halo and suddenly they're back on earth at the start of the next game. Oh right, he left that to Halo: Uprising, as if that'll cover those details. The only thing I liked about Halo 3's story was the ending, but getting there was a ripe mess.
And then in Contact Harvest, he seems to have ignored all the work done by Eric Nylund, as his version of what happened on Harvest differs GREATLY from Nylund's version. There were ways to make the story fit in with the other version and still make it not just good, but pretty badass. The book glaringly highlight's Staten's extraordinary lack of sense and understanding of continuity, and makes known the reason why Halo 3's story was so bad.
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2008, 01:13:46 PM »

I burned through all of the Halo books in about 3 days. Each one took about 3 days, that is.
You know, Staten might be like me insofar as usually if I have to pull something out of my ass like an essay or some other paper, its usually pretty good, but if I have time to do it properly and try to improve upon it, it just gets messy and much worse than it was. Or, conversely, if I'm working on an idea for years, and have time to improve upon it to the point where it is really good, that works as well. Halo 1 was re-created from scratch after years of toying around with it in 5 months. So he either had to pull a new storyline out of his ass or he'd been developing it for 3 years. In Halo 2 he wasn't quite as rushed, so he probably wrote up a great storyline like Halo 1, and then decided he wanted to throw in stuff about the covenant and make it all convoluted.
Halo 3, IMO was a disaster of a storyline. I mean just awful in terms of the "epic" feeling the game utterly failed at. The pacing of the story was abominable, and the plot arcs in the game kept jerking the player in a  new direction at exactly the WRONG moment. They listened to the fans complaining that Halo 2 wasn't all about Master Chief, except Joe forgot that he had introduced new characters in Halo 2 that had plotlines of their own that tied in with the main story in a big way. I mean, how DID Amanda Keyes and Sgt. Johnson and the Arbiter get back to earth? Last we saw of them they're on Delta Halo and suddenly they're back on earth at the start of the next game. Oh right, he left that to Halo: Uprising, as if that'll cover those details. The only thing I liked about Halo 3's story was the ending, but getting there was a ripe mess.
And then in Contact Harvest, he seems to have ignored all the work done by Eric Nylund, as his version of what happened on Harvest differs GREATLY from Nylund's version. There were ways to make the story fit in with the other version and still make it not just good, but pretty badass. The book glaringly highlight's Staten's extraordinary lack of sense and understanding of continuity, and makes known the reason why Halo 3's story was so bad.

Yeah, I agree.


But maybe Staten had a brain transplant.........hmphhhh, I wonder...
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2008, 04:16:24 PM »

Wait...I didn't know Nylund even told a story of Harvest, other than brief little snippets from what was briefed to the Spartans. He didn't exactly go into great detail on it. Still, I don't think I can bring myself to finish Staten's book. I guess I'll have to force myself.  Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2008, 09:41:25 PM »

Nylund made clear certain aspects that Staten utterly ignored.

1) First contact was made between the Covenant and the UNSC when the Covenant suddenly sent a transmission in english - "Your destruction is the will of the gods- and we are their instrument." There was no other communication of any kind. The first humans to see any alien species were the Spartans, who boarded a Covenant ship in order to destroy it.

2) Brutes were not part of the Covenant until about 2552, let alone in command of ships or trusted to make first contact with a new species.

3) A single ship destroyed the entire surface of harvest. No ships were taken down before the UNSC fleet under Admiral Cole to re-take Harvest.
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2008, 01:32:54 PM »

Also, Harvest went silent and no one knew why, which was the reason the first small battlegroup was sent in to investigate (discovering the Covenant ship).  Not a message from an AI or an ONI diplomatic shuttle bringing a warning of alien invaders.
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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2008, 03:59:33 PM »

I thought the date that the Brutes joined the Covvie was undisclosed. I knew they joined at a later date than other species, but I thought they joined a little earlier than '52. Just that the Prophets hadn't "revealed" them yet and were waiting for the right time to exploit their capabilities. I could be wrong. Been a while since I read the old novels.

Hey, while we're on the subject...I bought a ticket to Comic Con 2008, in which Nylund will be there. The ticket is for Sunday. I can't go because of a scheduling conflict. If anyone here is active duty military and wants to go, hit me up. They had a military discount and you have to show a valid MIL ID to get the ticket at the booth. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Maybe someone you know would like to go.
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2008, 04:13:02 PM »

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